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« on: August 27, 2008, 02:47:31 PM »

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A Course in Miracles has an interesting history and it all started when Dr. Helen Schucman, a non-religious Jew began working with Dr. William Thetford in 1958. It seems Dr. Thetford had ties with the CIA and was working on Project BLUEBIRD, which was later rolled over into the MK ULTRA Project. MK ULTRA was a program focused on mind control, it was created in the 1950s by the CIA with the goal to learn ways to manipulate people’s mental states, alter brain function and create Manchurian Candidates often through the use of drugs and hypnosis. Under the MK ULTRA umbrella there were over a hundred sub projects from the 1950s well into the 1970s and Thetford worked on Personality Theory, subproject 130. List of Subprojects

Schucman was employed at Columbia University with Thetford as a research psychologist for seven years without incident, but then one night on the subway she had a vision. A beautiful light filled the subway car and upon arriving home, the quiet voice, claiming to be Jesus, spoke to her for the first time. Soon, she and Thetford, a relationship that had always been strained according to reports, developed a close partnership while transcribing what this voice relayed. It’s an interesting coincidence that while working with Thetford, Schucman, a spiritual skeptic and scientist, had such an amazing transformation of spirit and mind.

Father Groeschel met Schucman at Columbia University while she was scribing the Course and he was writing his dissertation on the relationship between science and theology, he found her to be witty, engaging and a stimulating conversationalist. "Helen was a very scientific lady," he recalled, "a Jewish intellectual who considered herself to be an extreme agnostic, though not quite an atheist, and very skeptical about everything having to do with religion or spirituality." Groeschel also found Schucman to be an enigma, while writing the Course, she spent a lot of time in the Catholic Church, but refused to join, stating that as a Jew and a former Catholic "you Gentiles came along and made all these rules." He was confused by her reactions to writing A Course in Miracles, as she would often state, “I hate that damn book.” The Making Of A Course In Miracles

Groeschel also knew Thetford during his time at Columbia University and described him as "probably the most sinister person I ever met" and "the most religious atheist I have ever known.” Groeschel stated that Thetford was very excited about A Course in Miracles and personally arranged for its publication. It seems Thetford was quite a mystery at the University and none of his colleagues knew, until after he retired, that he had also been working for the CIA during his employment.

Although Father Groeschel felt that A Course in Miracles undermined authentic Christianity, he and Dr. Schucman maintained a friendship until her death. Most disturbing to him was the "black hole of rage and depression that Schucman fell into during the last two years of her life." According to Groeschel, who sat with Schucman while she was dying, "she cursed, in the coarsest barroom language you could imagine, `that book, that goddamn book.' She said it was the worst thing that ever happened to her. I mean, she raised the hair on the back of my neck. It was truly terrible to witness."

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http://www.americanchronicle.com/articl ... leID=46708
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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2008, 09:10:36 PM »


Dear Randy,
I don't know if this is going to you directly or onto the site somehow.  I just read your "snip"? on A Course in Miracles (ACIM).  Before coming into this ascension stuff, I was into ACIM.  It rang very true to me, and still does.  So tell me..... are you thinking that it was some CIA experiment by Thetford?????  And if so, I would like to hear more!  I have to admit, I always did wonder why Dr. Helen didn't seem more at peace.  I heard that she was depressed at the end of her life, as your article said.  What do you think?
 ARGH  This all gets so complicated!!!     Well anyway, I was just curious if you had more info about this.
Thanks
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2008, 01:36:57 PM »

Hey Dove,      HI        I don't know any more than what that article shared about ACIM.  I was never drawn to it or all the "study groups" that popped up over the past several years.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was a manipulation by the scum that be.   Her reported outbursts about "that damn book" etc...   tend to lend credence to her soul not being in alignment with the book and her mind being controlled to create it.  The depression and lack of peace as you pointed out also indicate internal conflict.  Hard to be at peace with something your doing when deep inside you are fundamentally, morally, spiritually opposed to it.

Important to point out that most of the things that are manipulated by the fools in control at the time, have some truth in them.  That is what people connect with and why they get hooked.  It feels right to them.   If you haven't developed a strong ability to discern then that sprinkling of truth allows the mind to "assume" that the rest is true also.   When looking at that same info with discernment or just plain skepticism the lack of continuity within the information jumps out.   it feels then, like they are talking out of both sides of their face.

A minor example would be info talking about love, light and empowerment in one paragraph and then subtly talking about needing them to take care of things in the next.  Or in some way shifting the power to the author.  The mind gets all involved with the love and light and doesn't see the dis-empowerment of the next paragraph.

Another example would be the mess that has happened within Reiki.  As people described it to me there were 3 levels to Reiki. those 3 levels could take months or even years to "master.  Yet there are "programs" out there that have many, many levels (12 to 15 being common).  People get hooked so to speak with the energy and truth of Reiki but get dis-empowered by the manipulation of "needing" all these other courses.  That multi level system (being nice here) is very, very profitable.  Wonder where the motive is of those folks.   Angry

If you didn't follow the link in that original post you may want to.  It could shed more light on the subject.  When I use the term *snip*.  it means that I only took a part of the article and posted it.  So there is more to read.

Randy


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