The 4D 5D Thing

[Engtovo]

I find this conversation frustrating because it is all so simple to me and the endless mental speculation is frightening.  No wonder no one knows what is going on here in earth!  Most information that uses the perspective of 4d 5d 6d ect is just manufactured by dark forces, they want people believe things like they are going into 5D with them being the ones who have defined what 5D is.  It is just another way they trap consciousness, by people not really knowing what it is they create with their words and thoughts.  We should only be thinking about raising our vibration to the highest level attainable in a body.  Then amend that thought to include the understanding that in the process this body we are in now will transform in several ways.  The concept of a light body with no eating etc though is another myth of earth.  They do exist other places but it is not the time in earth's evolution for them to exist here.  We are here to experience the physical world.   
 
There are dimensions but they are not numbered dimensions with the higher number being a higher vibration.  You could have 100 dimensions and times lines at the same vibration but a different frequency, like having the AM dimensions and the stations at different places along the dial and then having FM etc.  Just like radio there are places you can get the same station at a different location on the dial these anomalies are what create dimensional doorways and so forth
 
The Indians thought that test tube babies i.e. invitro fertilization also created people without souls.  A body cannot function awake (walk talk interact ect.) without human consciousness (and I use the term human very loosely, humanoid perhaps a better term, bear consciousness cannot run a human like body for example) so a clone cannot come out of the tank and be used without first transferring a soul or partial soul consciousness into the body.  Consciousness is required for thought and function, it can be low vibration scumbag consciousness but consciousness none the less.  The term soul is used in so many different ways on earth that defining it may be pointless. 
 
From my perspective what I would call higher self is the spirit.  For those of us in the light incarnating our spirit sits at the mastery level and creates souls with free will, that incarnate.  When a life is complete soul returns to the high self spirit and integrates.  A spirit may have 4 or 5 souls incarnating simultaneously, and at times one or two others serving as guides to others incarnated on the planet, or a soul created for the purpose of doing other work in spirit, instead of incarnating.  Dark forces pervert this process in many ways and split souls to hold more than one body, although both bodies would be lacking in physical energy and vitality  The higher self of most dark souls incarnating on the planet have done so many heinous things the higher self was pulled down in vibration and no longer sits at the mastery level, and hasn't for a very long time.  When a Master Incarnate comes to a planet to help raise the consciousness for example this indicates the WHOLE spirit coming into body, no higher self, no souls, no part serving as a guide, no fragmentation what so ever, the complete consciousness.
 
To me a lot of this conversation is the basic mental muck that is used to keep us from attaining higher consciousness.  Although I have dowsed for many years for various reasons dowsing is not a reliable method for attaining this kind of information.  There are times to dowse and times to not trust dowsing.  Dowsing about dimensions and soul progress and so forth is not reliable. Just the difficulties in clarity about the terms themselves can screw up the dowsing of these subjects.  The development of a particular soul for example may be meaningless compared the overall growth and level of knowledge of the higher self spirit.  A soul doing well may just mean in is following a life plan well, but it doesn't tell you how difficult that particular life plan was.  It would be like judging figure skaters without taking into consideration the degree of difficulty of a particular routine.  Some one could fall several times on a super hard routine and have progressed more than someone who has never fallen but did a routine that was simplistic.  It is a really important time to keeps our minds clear of the stuff that is put out for the specific purpose of distracting us.